LOL OK, so a better definition would be anything that would make a middle class American citizen really pissed that his or her tax dollars went towards it's production or that would make someone say "well, shit...I could do that!" hahahahahahaha
Yes, well I think that about some of the Dada art! Yah, so I could paint a mustache on a picture on the Mona Lisa too. Fuck you Duchamp for being alive to do it first! ;) Right. hehe
My favorite is "I found this smelly old urinal in the street...hmmm what can I do with it? I know, I'll sign it and call it a found object and see if I can find a sucker to buy it. Muahahahahaha!" and that mangy old stuffed goat one of those guys had! I forget who's it was, but it was awesome. I quit the art school thing when I realized that art is about salesmanship. A good sales pitch/"artist statement" equals good art. The product doesn't matter, its all in the clever titles and explainations.
Thankfully Duchamp didn't do much selling out until he got older.
Oooo I like the story about the donkey they had painting in Montparnnase, made up a fictitious artist and got the works exhibited and reviewed. That cracked me up. A lot of the earlier Dadaists had a fantastic sense of humor about things, Duchamp, Man Ray, Picabia (even if two of them were jack asses) that kind of got lost when people like Breton and the one with all the T's and Z's in his name that I can't spell started manifesto'ing out their arses. They had some great titles though. :) Picabia had one I was reading about today called 'Portraite d'une jeune fille americaine dans l'etat de nudite' that was a drawing of a spark plug.
Oh, I just went looking for a pic of the goat and my bad..that was Rauschenberg. LOL I once matted and framed a piece of paper I'd been wiping excess paint off my brush onto, titled it "You Just Can't Leave Well Enough Alone, Can You!?" and entered it into a jurried show. It didn't win a prize, but it DID get into the show. LOL That was about my breaking point right there.
That's a riot. Rauschenberg is the fella who did a lot of work with Merce Cunningham and John Cage isn't he? I don't know very much about more recent modern art, still stuck in the 1900-1940 era but I'm really enjoying learning about the reasons why they made some of the things they did much more than I would have ever enjoyed just seeing their art in a museum or something. Their lives and motivations are fascinating to me.
Yes he is. I first read about him and the goat thing in a book about the life of Jackson Pollock I think. Pollock studied with Thomas Hart Benton...I just find that wild! Either that or one of the Andy Warhol books. I was obsessed with Warhol and Pop Art when I was in high school. I think I've read just about everything put out by any and all of the factory hangers-on. Yeah, the back stories on the artists themselves and their motivations is wildly more interesting than just the art by itself.
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Date: 2004-07-20 04:25 am (UTC)hahahahahahaha
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Date: 2004-07-20 04:31 am (UTC)You now owe me $5,000 for my definitive artistic expression.
Pay up.
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Date: 2004-07-20 04:40 am (UTC)I accept traveller's checks, if hand delivered by macaw.
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Date: 2004-07-20 04:36 am (UTC)I quit the art school thing when I realized that art is about salesmanship. A good sales pitch/"artist statement" equals good art. The product doesn't matter, its all in the clever titles and explainations.
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Date: 2004-07-20 04:42 am (UTC)Oooo I like the story about the donkey they had painting in Montparnnase, made up a fictitious artist and got the works exhibited and reviewed. That cracked me up. A lot of the earlier Dadaists had a fantastic sense of humor about things, Duchamp, Man Ray, Picabia (even if two of them were jack asses) that kind of got lost when people like Breton and the one with all the T's and Z's in his name that I can't spell started manifesto'ing out their arses. They had some great titles though. :) Picabia had one I was reading about today called 'Portraite d'une jeune fille americaine dans l'etat de nudite' that was a drawing of a spark plug.
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Date: 2004-07-20 04:49 am (UTC)I once matted and framed a piece of paper I'd been wiping excess paint off my brush onto, titled it "You Just Can't Leave Well Enough Alone, Can You!?" and entered it into a jurried show. It didn't win a prize, but it DID get into the show. LOL That was about my breaking point right there.
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Date: 2004-07-20 04:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-20 05:03 am (UTC)Either that or one of the Andy Warhol books. I was obsessed with Warhol and Pop Art when I was in high school. I think I've read just about everything put out by any and all of the factory hangers-on.
Yeah, the back stories on the artists themselves and their motivations is wildly more interesting than just the art by itself.